JavaScript is disabled. I just thin with clean water and have had no drying time issues. Equally problematic were the English directions Tamiya used to provide...exactly the same as with their regular paint. modelling diva. It's very existence makes no sense. Has anyone used Tamiya's clear flat? Sold by Model Merchants and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. 687. Not that I can help much Terry, being a brush painter and have used Tamiya Flat for years with great results except for my GB Catalina which was a disaster and has got me skeptical about using it again. In the past I usually just used Tamiya spray can clears such as TS 13 which have worked well for me. Some Advice on Using Tamiya Clear through Airbrush | Military Modelling. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. TeK. Might at … Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. Tamiya X-20A thinner, and yes you can mix Tamiya Clear Gloss with Clear Flat or even Flat Base, but DO NOT use Flat base as a stand alone clear flat. You could try multiple coats, but i am sure the car guys might have some useful tips. I use the Tamiya sprays over dried Tamiya acrylics all the time with no problem. It's filled with paint. Name: Flat Clear: Farbe: TS-80 (85080) Typ: Lacquer: Finish: Matt (Transparent) Verpackung: Spray can (100ml) Bereich: Tamiya: Farbbetrachter (beta) Feature in beta, time to complete depends on amount of diapers I need to change :) RGB value: #ffffff. I used to mix my own matt or semi-matt clear coats, using a mix of 'Future' and Tamiya Flat Base, the amount of FB determining the degree of matt, from full matt, via semi-matt to semi-gloss. RichMacer. Having read that last article, I would guess the problem is the Future - when the formula changed in the UK, I got. When using Tamiya Clear Flat (matt varnish. Tamiya flat clear rattle can, no thinning. East Mids Model Club 29th Annual Show 19th MAY 2019. This item: TAMIYA TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml $12.29. I've used all 3 and they work well, use them just like any paint, no need to mess around with getting the right ratio. You can thin it out about 50/50. EDIT: Another tutorial for brush-painting flat colors mentioned to use a separate dry brush after every coat for absorbing the wet streaks. Spray it on in light coats. This should give a nice, streak-free surface after just few coats. Maybe it reacts with them. That is Tamiya Flat Clear painted over Tamiya Orange TS12. I don't use the Tamiya clears so was not to familiar with what you are useing. Has anyone used this? If you want an acrylic, Model Master has an acrylic gloss, semi-gloss, and flat. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Its still makes that white powder finish all over my model and didnt really make it flat? FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. FREE Shipping on orders over $25.00. On the Bench:  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 70%. The number 1use in Japan for flat base is to mix with X-20 for Flat Finishes, On that note Tamiya recommends you use the spray cans for flat clear coats, don't ask, I don't know why!!! Allow the paint to be clear-coated to fully cure before applying TS80. I've never understood the fascination with using this  product. I have a bottle of the Tamiya flat but have not used it. I've yet to find anything that works better for me than Alclad's matte coats, specifically 312 and 314. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. Do NOT use the Tamiya Flat black and think you will be able to cover it with this clear finish. I guess you missed my post stating that I use MM flat acrylic. Now I have a shiny F-16. I think careful wet-sanding with superfine grit and spraying TS-80 clear flat as a final coat can give a better look. "We have our own ammunition. Im thinking of painting my R91Cp flat black and was going to use the PS-55 Flat Clear to turn it matt. You are going for light mist coats, not complete coverage. Post May 20, 2008 #2 2008-05-20T01:09. Crossed posts with Geo. You can use X-21 as a clear cote as long as you use future with it about 2/3 future with 1/3 X-21 and apply with a fine mist. If you’re using repro decals (the decent ones that used to be available, not the tat that passes for them on eBay now), then lacquering over the decals – especially if they were a bit matt looking – makes them look sharper, shinier, and therefore better integrated into the finish as a whole. I like the Tamiya Flat Clear but I also like the Citadel Purity Seal varnish. I find 5% - 10% works, depending on the base. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. The paint can be thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya X-20A Acrylic thinner. Therefore, following an overall base coat, details can be added or picked out using enamel and/or acrylic paints. If you edit the title of your thread and ask for help getting a gloss finish on cars, you might catch there attention. X designated colors have a glossy finish while XF designated colors are flat finish. The Purity seal because it makes the edging look much than the model on the left. on flat surfaces I pulled out my Tamiya Clear paints (red, green and blue) that I had bought long ago but little used. I agree, 25% max, excluding thinner. Tamiya Flat Clear Spray These days high gloss is not the finish that always turns heads. It always helps to try out ur technique on a scrap piece of painted plastic first. Apparently you paint the outside of the body, is it durable? This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. Use ACE brand non spar varnish.Or any brand of non spar varnish flat. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. The Tamiya Clear Flat varnish has been around for some years John. Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a … But the usual two or three light coats works fine with both the gloss and flat sprays. Not truly flat and just the right amount of sheen for me. Reply. Any advice will be appreciated Larry. It will become soluble again and smear all over your fig. I've always used the tamiya clears and never had an issue. It will not go well over enamels, but on acrylics it is fine. Re: Using Tamiya PS-55 flat clear with TS paints I've posted many times on this, as long as you use a PS paint against the lexan, and let it dry thoroughly, you can use any enamel or acrylic over the top, and it won't crack, but preparation is key also. I've just used that stuff on my Ta152 Terry so take a look at how it finishes. 687. producing kits. 19K. TeK. Details. The project was the feathers on a winged jump pack (the BA clam pack chaplain to be exact). I cant seem to get this stuff to work correctly. In this tutorial we take a look airbrushing Tamiya Acrylic PaintsFor early access to all my videos before general release and shootouts in all my videos. Sold by Aidleyco and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. Post May 20, 2008 #1 2008-05-20T00:28. Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. Airbrush . I want to get it back to flat. K.I.S.S. If you have questions or problems about painting in the future, go to the Painting Forum. "Firing flares while dumping fuel may ruin your day" SH-60B NATOPS. 290 164. You'll get quicker answers and probably a lot more of them. Being new to using Tamiya paints, I have seen some posts re. i find that after spraying a glossy protection then finishing up with a flat clear, the finish still has that shiny look to it due to the glossy protection. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. Tamiya Clear Flat is a great place to start to get that interesting satin finish. The Tamiya because it brings out the red color better than the model on the right. 290 164. Painting Questions, Tutorials and Guidebooks. I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here. Is Tamiya Clear Flat relatively new? I'll try this, too. will i able to use tamiya xf-86 flat clear as protection on my tank? 'Gem' on flat surfaces (Tamiya Clear) - posted in Painting Tutorials: After trying and failing to get satisfactory results using the Citadel gem paints (soul stone blue, etc.) I was able to handle the model within 10 minutes but I avoid doing so for several hours and, even then, use facial tissues where I grasp the model. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. When airbrushing make sure to use any of the following Tamiya thinners: 81020, 81030, 81040, 81520, 87077. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. You could try this, which has worked exceptionally well for me for years, but the last time I tried it (on the P-47), I got a few areas where it 'speckled' and/or went chalky. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. Only 13 left in stock - order soon. I've never tried it since I still have enough PollyScale flat coat but once I've run out of PollyScale will give XF-86 a bash since I also you Tamiya acrylics. I'm considering trying it out and am wondering how well it compares to Testors acrylic clear flat. RichMacer. I use this more than … Why bother with ratios and praying for good luck? As mentioned, I used to mix Future and Tamiya Flat Base, then Humbrol Clear Gloss with the FB after the change to the formula for Future in the UK. Details. Like any other paint you dont want to just flood it on in one gloppy thick coat. Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80. I'm afraid that is going to ruin one of my builds if I keep using the gloss+Flat Base combo. 100% deckend . I would have thought you would paint the inside with it first, then paint over it. Three things you could try. Ah, so that's why I could not get my Clear Gloss to work. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. TAMIYA 87131 Panel Line Accent Color Black For Plastic Model Kit $10.50. In Stock. Any idea why? I want to spray it gloss, apply washes and decals then a satin/flat final finish, I have used Tamiya and lifecolor acrylic paints on this ship. I have a externally vented spray booth so use ordinary lacquer thinner for cleanup, but before I had the vented booth I used Windex. I do have a battery powered paint stirrer which might help but otherwise I mix approx half and half with x20a thinner and spray away. ForumerDeletedUser. and I think when you mix it with paints you only use a small amount just to take off the gloss, The paint itself reminds me of a ink called "Tinting Medium" when I worked as a printer we used it instead of white ink. The bottles have white labels and are a little larger than the standard model master size. Carefully sand down the coat with a fine grit sand paper/ polishing cloth to cut through the refraction of the flat coat. The paint can be also thinned for airbrushing using Tamiya Lacquer Thinner. For best results allow up to one week. I have only recently started using Flat base with future. Using a clear coat is mainly used for protection and presentation. I find though that the more you put on, the more chance you will have of getting a bit of chalking so small amounts are good. Check out the model in the picture rotation. Apply, let dry 15 minutes before applying another coat. Is there a better way to turn a gloss finish flat? Light coats are best. Toss the flat base and get some one step flat finishing product, Dullcoat, or the acrylics mentioned above. The finish will be nice and smooth and flat. TAMIYA … I also use MM mixed about 50/50 and no problems at all. I also use MM flat lacquer. I didn't want to over do it and only added a few drops to a cup on future and I found that was plenty. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people.". When I hand brush figures I put a drop of the stuff in whit val paints to keep from getting shinny spots from to many brush strokes. Post 4:54 PM - Jun 25 #2 2020-06-25T16:54. Check out the list of our Forums. Just to create a flat finish, I would go with some other waterbased product - like Microscale, Pollyscale, or Vallejo. More and more, modeler's are looking for the flat look. i dont really wanna spray it with any glossy protection such as future/tamiya clear. I glossed up my F-16 to apply the decals, then glossed again to seal. Can Tamiya X-22 clear gloss be used over enamel? 25% flat base is too much?, ignoring the thinner that's 33%. You must log in or register to reply here. I've been using it for years with great results. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! Not much help; but that's the two things which stood out to me. Hi Larry Yes, absolutely no problem. ForumerDeletedUser. I mixed it 50/50 with Tamiya thinner and it went on with no problems. I made that mistake the first time. So i mixed 2 parts Tamiya clear, with 1 part Tamiya Flat base and 1 part thinner. I have also tried other Xtra-acrylix Satin, & that was a disaster, so you are not alone. Turn a gloss paint flat so you can make it glossy again to apply decals then mix up a devil's brew of flat base and floor polish to bring it, hopefully, back to a flat without ruining the decals with a film of white chalk. I haven't used Tamiya clear, but have used old-formula Future, mixed in an old 35mm film can, with sealable lid, about 10%  for flat, 5% for satin. Falcon, to get a nice flat finish, get a spray can of Testors Dullcoat. So about 10% -15% to Future ratio will give a dead flat finish? Hey everyone, I have a can of Tamiya TS-80 flat clear and right on the top of the cap it sais not to spray on decals and stickers. I also agree by using Alclads flat base because it dries fast. As far as I'm aware, Tamiya Clear Flat is a varnish, but their Flat Base is the mixer. 19K. Going to the one you need for answers is a lot easier and more people check out the Forums they're interested in. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. Protection being your paint won't scratch off as easily, (this is especially true for acrylic paint base coats) and presentation being glossy or flat. You do have to be careful of it over SOME enamel paints. More info: View Encycolorpedia - #ffffff. View our. Our community is FREE to join. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. A trick to get a better finish is to spray a mist coat of straight thinner right after the clear coat, this helps it level out nicely and get a smoother finish. Imagin my dismay when the brown wash I had used floated up and made the whole figure look muddy. Oddly, I've had problems with the Tamiya Gloss Clear not drying completely but not the Flat Clear. Sometimes you can get unique effects combining flat parts with glossy parts. I have found no good way of getting rid of that chalky white after it appears and I've gone as far as spraying straight gloss on it. The Flat Base is designed to turn Gloss paint... flat. By combining the use of these three types of paints, the finishing of plastic models becomes simpler and more effective. I'm merely asking about the Tamiya ratios because I have a bottle and have never tried it. I like to try different products to see which one works best. Flat Clear TS-80 - 100ml. Farbinfo. I was considering trying it but will not if it has even a hint of tendency to get "chalky white". I wish I could get some Polly S/Floquil matte finish again. This is one of the few things I learned in my brief insurance man career several decades ago. What a cool look! I will try this next time. As this is for a car, its a bit out of my area, i only want enough of a gloss to apply decals. Thanks Geo. It's that easy. 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